Ive taken head shots and neck shots and still occasionaly do but im talking deer a 100 yards or less away. Make an error in a head shot and youve blown a jaw off. Nobodys perfect and if your shooting behind the shoulder theres MUCH more room to error and still make a clean kill. Shoot 100s of deer and your eventually going to pull a shot. If your shoot 100s of deer why even worry about loosing a bit of rib meat or an occasional front shoulder. Shoot them behind the shoulder with a amply powerful rifle. Found the best way is whats worked for man for centurys. Lots of places in a neck that dont drop a deer. Went through that head shooting thing seen some deer really messed up run off. Crop damage shooting on a farm and we kill up to a 100 deer a year. To each their own.thats how i kill most of my deer. Down here, a 223 is perfectly accepted for shooting deer. Anyways, I didn’t start this post to stir the ethics pot. Works great for culling and there is no meat damage. We use 223 and head/neck shoot everything. Where I’m at we literally have state issued tags that allow us to kill anywhere from tens to hundreds of deer off each of ranch. I guess this is a regional idea about having to have a big gun to kill deer. Might be OK for ground squirrels if the closest ones weren't thousands of miles away. They'd probably blow up on the surface of the target. I wish I had a better memory of doing that, but I had no use for them and it was just to see what the bullet would take. Moderate Lee Factory Crimp (try crimping with the seating die)įWIW, these same bullets can be driven to almost 4000fps using fast powder. You really need a 'chrono' to work with subsonic loads.īullet: 33 Gr V-Max (.22 Mag surplus and blems) Yes, you start high and work down unless you like lodged bullets in your barrel. This load data was worked up in my barrel and obviously I don't know how it will work in yours. Used with NV they can't even tell where the shot is coming from. It works great for killing vermin absolutely silently. 22 that won't gunk up the can since the can is sealed. I also bought a few k of 33 gr jacketed and tipped seconds and decided use them. Than I decided to work up a silent load for a 16" Contender. (Alternate: Hornady 75 HPBT works also and can be loaded to fit a magazine)Ģ.430 LOA - Single loading only - Won’t fit in magazine
Out to 75 yds the load is a tackdriver, then it starts to destabilize.īullet: Sierra 80 gr HPBT (loaded frontwards) It works in my 1:7 twist AR, I have no idea if it'll work in yours or even be safe in yours. 223 I realized that the only way to get more energy on the target was to use a heavier bullet. NOT because there better then a 308 or 06 at killing.I guess this is a regional idea about having to have a big gun to kill deer. The military uses them because there light, dont kick and they can carry more ammo. That said i dont know of one person that kills alot of deer that claims its an ideal round to do it. Obviously because its killed 100s of thousands of men that weight more then a deer. I take it very seriously and use the right tool for the job that puts them down without suffering. What i seen to find with the fans of 22 cal deer hunting is those people tend to forget or keep quiet about those failures or blame something else for them. You WILL eventually wound one or not recover one that you couldnt find. Now im guilty and a hypocrite because id did kill two does one year with a 60 grain partition in one of my ar's and it killed them but do it enough times and its going to bite you. Id bet not a single guy here can say his only centerfire rifle is a 223. What you can get away with isnt the same as what is right and id bet if your here you have a gun more suited for deer. If you want to kill deer with an AR get a 300 bo or some other more suited round. People do it just to prove they can and dont much care if a deer suffers.
SUBSONIC 223 RECIPES 90 GRAIN FULL
Im not even a fan of full power 556 for deer hunting.
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